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Gregg

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Visual Bloatstudio 2015
« on: July 23, 2015, 09:14:24 AM »

It's funny, you do a custom install, uncheck everything and it's still 5GB :o

I wonder what, if anything, you can do with that 5 gig.
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Re: Visual Bloatstudio 2015
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2015, 11:36:57 AM »

What about the generated binaries?

Bigger? Same size? Smaller?

Faster? Same? Slower?

Does the new VC bring anything good with it?
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Re: Visual Bloatstudio 2015
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2015, 11:58:03 AM »

Some 3rd party stuff including your favorite ... GitHub
I haven't gotten very far with it yet.
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Gregg

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Re: Visual Bloatstudio 2015
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2015, 10:35:11 PM »

Size of generated binaries for OpenSSL 1.0.2d

libeay32.dll x86 in bytes
VC09 1254912
VC11 1252864
VC14 1256448 <- bigger than VC11 by 3584 bytes

libeay32.dll x64 in bytes
VC09 2080256
VC11 1950208
VC14 1947136 <- smaller than VC11 by 3072 bytes

The compiler/linker is about the same as VC11 for speed. As for the binaries, I haven't benchmarked them (and probably won't).

I haven't built Apache yet, have been doing all the dependencies and now it's too hot without A/C to use the desktop. I really need a new laptop cause it's slow with VC9 and would probably be slower than a tortoise with VC11 or 14. It's been on the wish list for some time now but I haven't got the $$$.
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Re: Visual Bloatstudio 2015
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2015, 10:07:09 PM »

Gone are the days when you could just include the msvcrXXX.dll in the /bin folder and have a workable piece of software (VC10, 11 & 12). Nope now you must have the redistributable installed.

Not only does it require vcruntime140.dll, but also;
api-ms-win-crt-conio-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-convert-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-environment-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-heap-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-locale-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-math-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-stdio-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-string-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-time-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-utility-l1-1-0.dll

That's for Apache which is a crt and it still errors on startup with "Application failed to initialize properly" (memories of VC9).

Apachemonitor also requires api-ms-win-crt-multibyte-l1-1-0.dll. It seems to run but there's no icon in the tray.
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Re: Visual Bloatstudio 2015
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2015, 10:00:05 AM »

Some 3rd party stuff including your favorite ... GitHub
I haven't gotten very far with it yet.

github is nice. The 2013 had git integration, but not directly github.

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Gone are the days when you could just include the msvcrXXX.dll in the /bin folder and have a workable piece of software (VC10, 11 & 12). Nope now you must have the redistributable installed.

that is not so nice, but in production I always had to install it. it is not a big bummer.

Yes you need new hardware  ;) Well my compiler Laptop is now 6 years old. A laptop with SSD would be nice that would speed up compiling a lot.
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Re: Visual Bloatstudio 2015
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2015, 11:06:49 PM »

that is not so nice, but in production I always had to install it. it is not a big bummer.

It is if you want to make an installer (don't get your hopes up folks) since you have to pile another 13-14 megs to include the entire redistributable. VC10-12 was cool cause you just needed the single file.

Yes you need new hardware  ;) Well my compiler Laptop is now 6 years old. A laptop with SSD would be nice that would speed up compiling a lot.

Mine is at least that old, or close. It came with Vista so that tells you how old it is. SSDs are nice, I could survive with a 250GB one but nothing less. I'd like an Intel i5 too, not so greedy as to want an i7 but at this point I cannot afford anything so I'll take what I can get.
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